tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post2675367717209449408..comments2024-03-14T09:50:44.315+00:00Comments on Psychological comments: Where the bright kids goAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09320614837348759094noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-54379036046973549442014-06-12T04:59:35.146+01:002014-06-12T04:59:35.146+01:00Yup...Yup...JayManhttp://jaymans.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-37706905225516139632014-06-09T20:53:07.648+01:002014-06-09T20:53:07.648+01:00Agree the gap seems small, but we have not been gi...Agree the gap seems small, but we have not been given the actual scores. For example, 98th percentiles definitely move, 86th percentiles might enjoy their relative local advantage. Wish authors would go back to simple, informative statistics.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09320614837348759094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-65756175272377830302014-06-09T13:31:59.652+01:002014-06-09T13:31:59.652+01:00They should have controlled for Parent's socio...They should have controlled for Parent's socioeconomic status, not the children's.Merculinushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12533970814734366905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-55278968876182605942014-06-09T06:34:15.826+01:002014-06-09T06:34:15.826+01:00" (12 percentile points higher ability among ..." (12 percentile points higher ability among those moving from rural areas to central cities compared to those staying in rural areas)"<br /><br />So, roughly, people who move from rural area to bright lights big city are at the 56th percentile of rurals and those who stay are at the 44th percentile? That's not really as big of a gap as I might have expected.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-23401720498300890852014-06-09T06:30:46.431+01:002014-06-09T06:30:46.431+01:00One question is how many of the major American wri...One question is how many of the major American writers started out growing up below the well-educated class? I suspect fewer than we'd guess.<br /><br />Okay: try 2 Southerners who moved to the New York City area: Thomas Wolfe and Tom Wolfe. Thomas was from an upwardly mobile skilled working class background. His father ran a gravestown carving business and his mother ran boarding houses and eventually made a fair amount of money in real estate. <br /><br />But Tom Wolfe came from the educated upper middle class. His father was a professor of agronomy and editor of "The Southern Planter" magazine. Tom Jr. assumed as a boy that the Thomas Wolfe novels on the shelves had been written by his father.<br />Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-78483382627261886102014-06-09T06:24:14.712+01:002014-06-09T06:24:14.712+01:00Updike only spent a few years in New York City, th...Updike only spent a few years in New York City, then moved to exurban Massachusetts well north of Boston -- an area of expensive, very old small towns with well-educated locals.<br /><br />Flannery O'Connor was, I believe, a small town stay at home. <br /><br />Nabokov mostly lived in Ithaca, NY to teach at Cornell, then moved to an expensive hotel in Switzerland.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-85911167990402945142014-06-08T20:17:22.672+01:002014-06-08T20:17:22.672+01:00Yes, Twain certainly does seem representative of a...Yes, Twain certainly does seem representative of a pattern. Just confining ourselves to America, one is hard put to find an example of a significant author who stayed on the farm:<br /><br />Benjamin Franklin: Thorough city boy. Boston, Philadelphia, London, Paris.<br /><br />Washington Irving: New York, London, Madrid, Paris, etc<br /><br />Hawthorne: born in Salem, but lived much of his life in fairly close proximity to Boston. Lengthy sojourns in Liverpool and Italy.<br /><br />Melville:Lived the bulk of his life orbiting around the Boston-NY area.<br /><br />Poe: Baltimore, Philadelphia, NY, Richmond, etc<br /><br />Henry James: New York, Boston, Newport, London, etc<br /><br />Walt Whitman: NY<br /><br />Emily Dickinson: Possible exception to the rule, as she lived out her life in rural Amherst, but the presence of Amherst college (her alma mater ) means that we should probably think of her as living in a university town.<br /><br />Eliot: St. Louis, Boston-Cambridge, London.<br /><br />Willa Cather: Although thought of as the chronicler of the rural West, spent the bulk of her career in NY.<br /><br />Hemingway: Oak Park (Chicago suburb), Chicago, Toronto, Paris.<br /><br />Fitzgerald:Grew up in provincial cities like St Paul, but was educated at Princeton. Later lived in Paris and LA.<br /><br />Off-hand, the only genuine counterexample that springs to mind is Faulkner. He basically stayed put in Oxford, MS, barring a few Hollywood sojourns (he worked on the screenplay for THE BIG SLEEP). Of course, Oxford is the home of the University of Mississippi,so perhaps we should slot him alongside Dickinson as an author who lived out his life in a university town.<br /><br />syonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-43008085690125781902014-06-08T16:39:18.780+01:002014-06-08T16:39:18.780+01:00I'm always amazed that people think they are &...I'm always amazed that people think they are "controlling for" income or SES by matching two subpopulations with very different population means in another characteristic (say IQ). If the two characteristics are highly correlated then for one subpopulation the income or SES characteristic is a low-probability event and therefore an outlier.pseudoerasmushttp://pseudoerasmus.comnoreply@blogger.com