tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post7541137672194168683..comments2024-03-14T09:50:44.315+00:00Comments on Psychological comments: Is France sinking even further?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09320614837348759094noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-60986905097191627602015-07-12T05:00:08.051+01:002015-07-12T05:00:08.051+01:00If it doesn't result from the inclusion of low...If it doesn't result from the inclusion of lower IQ immigrants, in other words a failure to match the samples, I will vote for the increasing mutation load, or whatever "x" factor has been causing decreases in intelligence in the West for decades.pyrrhushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06150605108788285274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-79616802667728262992015-06-17T01:15:04.847+01:002015-06-17T01:15:04.847+01:00Sample size too small, lack of necessary statistic...Sample size too small, lack of necessary statistics to draw an inference. The authors don't even try.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-78236873623235901112015-06-15T20:15:39.208+01:002015-06-15T20:15:39.208+01:00There may be a brain drain at the very highest lev...There may be a brain drain at the very highest levels of achievement.<br /><br />http://news.sciencemag.org/2010/11/why-french-scientists-find-joie-de-vivre-u.s.<br /><br />http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/72627106-9318-11e3-8ea7-00144feab7de.html#axzz3d9Cqb2rX<br /><br />A quick search turned up "brain drain" in the scientific & tech fields. I wonder if it's present in other fields as well? And yet, over a population of millions, would the loss of a few thousand each year make a significant difference in the entire nation?East Coastnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-81081004774861975942015-06-15T15:47:30.754+01:002015-06-15T15:47:30.754+01:00Oh I agree with our host, there aren't anywher...Oh I agree with our host, there aren't anywhere near as many eminent Frenchmen now as there were in 1870. Some of them obviously retain the problem-solving knack, but it is unlikely we'll see another Laplace. The decline is startling in its quickness.Aeoli Peranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-1717420908501816492015-06-15T10:29:45.920+01:002015-06-15T10:29:45.920+01:00Of course, of course. More interesting, where do t...Of course, of course. More interesting, where do the best mathematicians move to when they leave their country of birth and/or country of maths education? US tends to hoover up global intellects. Also of interest: big split between STEM type achievements, where France does well, and the arts type subjects, where success outside France is more limited. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09320614837348759094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-46545707024481483462015-06-15T10:11:23.999+01:002015-06-15T10:11:23.999+01:00Alright, let's pretend France and the US have ...Alright, let's pretend France and the US have anywhere near the same population size.peterfireflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050847835479172236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-57698489775755747302015-06-15T09:03:57.351+01:002015-06-15T09:03:57.351+01:00At a quick glance, by affiliation at the time of a...At a quick glance, by affiliation at the time of award of Medal, US 26, France 16, UK 8. So US way ahead, France well ahead of rest.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09320614837348759094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-87239516775843276742015-06-15T05:59:31.591+01:002015-06-15T05:59:31.591+01:00In my opinion it's a general problem which con...In my opinion it's a general problem which concerns every single country new technologies are responsible since creativity and thinking are more and more "the web". But "Paris sera toujours Paris" ... plan trip to europehttp://www.routeperfect.com/france/normandynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-27484058720906544952015-06-15T00:44:14.721+01:002015-06-15T00:44:14.721+01:00France is way ahead on Fields Medals:
http://www....France is way ahead on Fields Medals:<br /><br />http://www.trin.cam.ac.uk/medallists-and-prize-winners<br /><br />And that is even if you decide to not count Grothendieck, Werner, Châu, Kontsevich and Avila...peterfireflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050847835479172236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-85414914447341608492015-06-14T21:41:02.988+01:002015-06-14T21:41:02.988+01:00"Good food": try plotting the decline of..."Good food": try plotting the decline of IQ in France with the rise in McDonald's restaurants.deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-16348788084954776342015-06-14T21:35:58.939+01:002015-06-14T21:35:58.939+01:00Assuming that the Flynn Effect probably began in e...Assuming that the Flynn Effect probably began in earnest around 1870 at earliest, we are looking for outstanding achievement since then. Even if we say that the last 50 years are too contemporary to allow us to judge, we would still expect French science Nobels to be significant in the 1980 to 1965 period which they are not, compared to UK. Indeed, Trinity College Cambridge has more Nobels than France. If good food and education lead to genius, then the French should be ahead.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09320614837348759094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-32921944681441831782015-06-14T21:31:00.714+01:002015-06-14T21:31:00.714+01:00No, for statistical reasons, compared with Finland...No, for statistical reasons, compared with Finland. However, no hard data on this particular sample.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09320614837348759094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-7152049064793437602015-06-14T19:30:52.196+01:002015-06-14T19:30:52.196+01:00As an aside - my top 3 favourite operas were compo...As an aside - my top 3 favourite operas were composed by Frenchmen.<br /><br />Hippolytus and Aricia (Rameau)<br /><br />The Trojans (Berlioz)<br /><br />Pelleas and Melisande (Debussy)Clarendineahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04234315062634062383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-53620952422854328122015-06-14T19:10:01.441+01:002015-06-14T19:10:01.441+01:00Poincare, Poisson, Galois, Hermite, Carnot, Binet,...Poincare, Poisson, Galois, Hermite, Carnot, Binet, Jordan, Laurent, Lebesgue, Levy, Sturm and Liouville.<br /><br />Et cetera et cetera.Aeoli Peranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-38835494246254916162015-06-14T19:05:16.539+01:002015-06-14T19:05:16.539+01:00By every environmental theory this part of the pla...<b>By every environmental theory this part of the planet should breed a race of super-folk: Asterix the Gaul on natural geographical steriods, a fraternal band of clever Gallic communards.</b><br /><br />But they were! In recent memory, the French produced more eminent mathematicians per capita, per year than any other nationality, ever. <br /><br />A partial listing: Descartes, Pascal, Laplace, Lagrange, Fourier, d'Alembert, de Moivre, Argand, Condorcet, Legendre, de l'Hopital, Parseval, Rolle, Fermat, Vernier.<br /><br />All of these men were giants! There are so many that I've probably left off some extraordinary figure or another.Aeoli Peranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4624586630299165335.post-33417678155196347982015-06-14T19:03:43.860+01:002015-06-14T19:03:43.860+01:00"While it would be good to know how many rece..."While it would be good to know how many recent immigrants were in the sample they judge it unlikely to have been so many as to influence the results greatly"<br />A demographic shift seems the most likely and obvious explanation. The authors perhaps "judge it unlikely" for political reasons.Tomhttp://tom.netnoreply@blogger.com